Safed chief rabbi calls for state to sponsor 'horrible revenge' against Arabs


Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, the chief rabbi of Safed, suggests hanging from a tree the children of the terrorist who carried out the attack at the Mercaz Harav Yeshiva earlier this month that killed eight.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/9688 74.html

Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, employed by the government of Israel as the chief rabbi of Safed, demanded the state lynch the children of a gunman who recently attacked an ultranationalist Jerusalem yeshiva (a religious school).

His comments were the latest in a long series of bigoted, violent, and inciting comments by Israeli rabbis. In 2006, for example, Rabbi David Batzri raged against a planned joint Arab-Jewish school: "the establishment of such a school is a despicable and sinful act. An Arab cannot contaminate what is pure. It is forbidden to blend darkness and light. The nation of Israel is pure and the Arabs are a nation of donkeys. They are an evil disaster, an evil devil and a nasty affliction" (http://www.handinhand12.org/index.cfm?co ntent.display&pageID=148)

His son, also a rabbi, did him one better by introducing the fear of miscegenation, a frequent theme of Israeli fundamentalists: "They want to take our girls. They are endowed with true filthiness. There is pure and there is impure and they are impure" (Ibid.)

Nor are these sentiments confined to the fringes of Israeli religious thought. Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the spiritual leader of Israel's powerful Shas party, representing the non-Ashkenazi ultra-orthodox, said in 2001: "It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable," (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1 270038.stm).

Much has been written, and justly so, about the Taliban and other fundamentalists, Islamic and Christian both, and their effect of the politics of the states and people with whom they have influence. The state of Israel, however, has succeeded before the world (or at least the United States) in affecting a secular, peace-loving, and pragmatic  demeanor which is by and large the province of a small and shrinking Ashkenazi elite, and does not reflect the reality of the average working-class Jewish nationalist, most of who say they would never tolerate an Arab neighbor or work for an Arab boss (apart from the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza, with whom Israelis are in violent conflict, 20% of Israel's citizens are Arabs). They tend to agree with their rabbis; in one recent poll, 75% of Jewish youths said Arabs were less intelligent and less clean than Jews (http://kashmiri-nomad.blogspot.com/2007/ 12/jewish-israeli-youth-arabs-are-less.h tml).

Update [2008-3-27 21:14:43 by BITNPB]: A little more context, for those who requested it: On March 10, a week after a Palestinian opened fire in the Mercaz HaRav yeshiva in Jerusalem killing eight students, apparently in revenge for Israel's killing of dozens of civilians in Gaza, a mob of hundreds of Israeli Jews converged on the Jabal al-Mukkabir neighborhood in Occupied East Jerusalem where the gunman's family lived. In what Haaretz termed an "organized, synchronized pogrom," the mob threw stones at Palestinian homes smashing windows and destroying water tanks, damaged cars and chanted "Death to the Arabs" while police did little to stop them.9 Haaretz observed that such an attack "could never take place in a Jewish neighborhood," and noted that while "Israel and the Jewish world raise a huge cry over every suspicion of an attack on Jews because of their ethnicity, it is intolerable that residents of the capital [sic] are attacked solely because of their nationality." (http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=war_israel_palestine&Number=296146137)

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Why did you post this? (none / 0)

An Israeli fundamentalist killed Yitzak Rabin.  We know that fundamentalism tends to be extremely destructive.

That being said, what is the point of this post.  I would really, really like to know.  


by mady on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 08:06:38 PM EST

Re: Why did you post this? (none / 0)

I'm pretty sure the point is anti-semitism.


by LakersFan on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 08:53:21 PM EST
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The point was ending RACISM (Arabs are Semites) (none / 0)

Yes its possible for Jewish people to do bad things as well its time you accept that. There are bad Jewish people and there are good Jewish people. Dont assume every person that practices Judaism is a saint and all gentiles Jew haters. Racism is a problem in Israel, I have an Arab Israeli friend I know.
I also have a friend that made mention of our Arab Israeli friend to an American Jew, that went on a racist tirade about a person he never met. The tensions of the Arab-Israeli conflict has caused uglyness on both sides. Its best that good people on both sides do there best to mitigate the damage done by the bad people.
by edtastic on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 05:18:40 AM EST
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The point was stoking religious hatred (none / 0)

Sure. There are good people and bad people of all ethnicities, races, religions, etc. But this diary was trying to paint Israeli Jews with a very broad brush, which is one of the classic tactics of anti-Semites. (And I know Arabs are Semitic, but if you look up any definition of anti-Semite, they all say "discrimination/persecution/prejudice against Jews".)


by LakersFan on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 01:39:52 PM EST
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Re: The point was stoking religious hatred (none / 0)

Show me, please, how I tried to paint Jews or Israelis with a broad brush. I'm saying religious fundamentalism, with some strongly racist content, is an important part of Israeli society, comes out of the mouths of government employees, and reflects and/or inspires racist sentiments held by a majority of Jewish Israelis as documented in many opinion polls.

I mentioned, in this context, Muslim and Christian fundamentalism. Most people have less knowledge and understanding of Jewish fundamentalism and its influence on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and I'm trying to correct that.

Your accusation of anti-Semitism is scurrilous and unfounded.  


The Washington Post gave Mrs Clinton four Pinocchios for [the sniper story], which is like three Michelin stars, only for lying. -- The Economist
by BITNPB on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 01:53:29 PM EST
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Re: The point was stoking religious hatred (none / 0)

The whole thing was painting Israeli Jews with a broad brush. These are not the views of most Israeli Jews at all, they are the views of religious fundamentalists who are a very small minority in Israel. You intentionally wrote your diary to deceive people who don't know that most Jews are not Orthodox and do not care what that rabbi says. And then you repeat these lies here with "racist sentiments held by a majority of Jewish Israelis as documented in many opinion polls" when you have no evidence of that at all. Majority of Jewish Israelis? Many polls? Broad Brush. Anti-Semitism.


by LakersFan on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:15:54 PM EST
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Re: Safed chief rabbi calls for state to sponsor ' (none / 0)

I would say the point is that it contributes to our understanding of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the implications of a "Jewish state," the reach of religious fundamentalism, and how America's #1 recipient of foreign aid is spending our money.


The Washington Post gave Mrs Clinton four Pinocchios for [the sniper story], which is like three Michelin stars, only for lying. -- The Economist
by BITNPB on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 08:17:15 PM EST

Re: Safed chief rabbi calls for state to sponsor ' (none / 0)

No, actually it just fuels antisemitism.


by mady on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 08:49:00 PM EST
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Re: Safed chief rabbi calls for state to sponsor ' (2.00 / 1)

I am a Jew who both supports the existence of Israel and the creation of a separate Palestinian state.  Taking the actions of Jewish fundamentalists out of context is really not helping look for a solution, it is just waving the flag of hatred.  If you want to talk atrocities, talk both sides, if you want to talk solutions, talk both sides as well.


by mady on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 08:51:44 PM EST
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Re: Safed chief rabbi calls for state to sponsor ' (none / 0)

I did not take them out of context; I placed them in their proper context within the ethnic and class structure of the state of Israel.


The Washington Post gave Mrs Clinton four Pinocchios for [the sniper story], which is like three Michelin stars, only for lying. -- The Economist
by BITNPB on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 09:05:58 PM EST
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Re: Safed chief rabbi calls for state to sponsor (1.50 / 2)

EDITED!!! The point is to pretend that most Israelis sanction this kind of nonsense. This rabbi speaks for himself, not for Israel and not for Jews. This poster is a moron.


Hillary 2008!
by New York Democrat on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 09:00:50 PM EST

Re: Safed chief rabbi calls for state to sponsor (1.00 / 1)

Hundreds of rabbis have uttered these types of sentiments. I cited four prominent examples. Polls show most Jewish Israelis hold opinions widely regarded as racist, including being unwilling to work for an Arab, live next to an Arab, or have an Arab as a friend.

It's the true context -- when you would like these to be unrepresentative, fringe statements, when they are not -- which has aroused your ire.


The Washington Post gave Mrs Clinton four Pinocchios for [the sniper story], which is like three Michelin stars, only for lying. -- The Economist
by BITNPB on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 09:08:59 PM EST
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Re: Safed chief rabbi calls for state to sponsor (none / 0)

That is a pack of lies for which you do not have one shred of proof.


by LakersFan on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 01:41:42 PM EST
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Re: Safed chief rabbi calls for state to sponsor (none / 0)

You didn't follow any of the links, did you? I know this is a hot-button issue and all of my facts have reliable sources to back them up.


The Washington Post gave Mrs Clinton four Pinocchios for [the sniper story], which is like three Michelin stars, only for lying. -- The Economist
by BITNPB on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 01:54:42 PM EST
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Re: Safed chief rabbi calls for state to sponsor (none / 0)

You show me your source where "hundreds of rabbis" said these things. You show me the polls (multiple polls you claim) that show these thoughts are shared by "most" Jewish Israelis (I saw the very vague BBC article about it, but it only reported on the report, it didn't provide the actual poll results.)

If you weren't trying to spread prejudice and hatred, you would stop making these types of overbroad statements.


by LakersFan on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:33:54 PM EST
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Re: Safed chief rabbi calls for state to sponsor ' (none / 0)

A couple of people chimed in with the predicable "you're an anti-Semite" meme. As a rebuttal to what I wrote, it's beneath contempt and requires no further response.


The Washington Post gave Mrs Clinton four Pinocchios for [the sniper story], which is like three Michelin stars, only for lying. -- The Economist
by BITNPB on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 09:10:20 PM EST

Re: Safed chief rabbi calls for state to sponsor ' (none / 0)

You are beneath contempt.


by LakersFan on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 01:42:42 PM EST
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Re: Safed chief rabbi calls for state to sponsor ' (none / 0)

Your irrational anger at these awkward facts is, as a persuasive argument against their significance, underwhelming.


The Washington Post gave Mrs Clinton four Pinocchios for [the sniper story], which is like three Michelin stars, only for lying. -- The Economist
by BITNPB on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 01:56:33 PM EST
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Re: Safed chief rabbi calls for state to sponsor ' (1.00 / 1)

But your irrational repetition of inaccurate and misleading statements about Israeli Jews is is a persuasive argument that you are an anti-Semite.


by LakersFan on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:37:25 PM EST
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